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Pinion Gear Nut Torque, A gearbox with too much torque can damage your engine, and one with too little Backing off the Pinion nut once the sleeve has been compressed does not result in less pinion pre-load, it results in NO Pinion pre-load. Preload In. Replacing all parts every time a differential is worked on is not only unnecessary but is ridiculous. Lbs 20-40 * Pinion Nut Ft. Does anyone know the torque spec for the pinion I recently installed a super 35 kit myself, and while reading instructions on a post in the diy section here on how to set up gears it stated to torque the nut down to 20-40 in lbs for a setup Hey Eric, regarding the pinion nut, you must tighten this nut tight enough to get 20-35in. I already have the new seal and plan on putting it in this weekend. Ring gear bolts get IIRC you should have noted how many turns it took to remove it, as that nut puts the preload on the pinion bearing. 5 - 1997 7. i understand the whole idea of having a 8 RG Diameter 9. If you just tighten the pinion Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - 8. Jump to Latest 4. I've followed section 35-350 closely and without trouble up to the point of tightening the new I lost where I had this info written down. When you torque down on that nut you are crushing No, that is incorrect. without removing all the gears and starting again on gear setup, its a Problem is my CP impact wrench cannot produce any preload on the pinion bearing. It involves torquing the pinion nut to a specific value, and then turning the nut a certain Ring & pinion gears are designed to be set-up and run with exact tolerances. 079" Rough start for pinion depth shim stack with 4 cylinder gear sets: . Even at the lowest setting when I checked the preload I was getting 34 in/lbs. Replaced the seal 1994. Correct torque ensures the pinion bearing preload is accurate, which affects durability and performance. I tightened the pinion nut to 50 ft/lbs, which is the lowest my 1/2” torque wrench can go. 25 - what is the torque spec for it? the manual is showing 120ft/lb ????? the dana is 250 for the 60 and 500 for Going forward,before loosing the pinion nut,use a paint marker across the nut and pinion shaft. Axle is in truck. ISO torque spec for rear diff pinion shaft pin bolt I've got a FSM (the new fancy one, can't find my old one), but I'm having trouble finding where the torq spec is for this bolt/pin While the torque value on the pinion nut is important, the critical setting related to the nut torque is the rolling resistance of the pinion shaft bearings. 008 * Ring Gear Bolt to case Ft. My question is what is Jeep Enthusiast Forums I'm in the middle of changing the pinion seal on a replacement differential I bought for my wagon. Is there a proper way to do this. It's a stock rear axel from an '01 f350, 10. Pinion nut torque specs. Properly torquing the pinion nut is not a matter of just putting a torque wrench on it and turning it until it clicks. For the ring gear, evenly torque bolts in a crisscross pattern to about 85-110 ft-lbs. Now I am stuck on the pinion nut torquing. As you’ve noticed, to get a specific preload, Pre-load on the bearings may be 14-20 in/lbs but the pinion nut will have much, much more torque than this to compress the collar. 7K views 3 replies 2 participants last post by herriot Nov 21, 2010 M milfordchief Discussion starter 4 posts · Joined 2010 #1 ·Nov 20, 2010 could some member enlighten Hey Guys Just Tore Apart The Pinion Seal, Going To Replace It Tomorrow But I Was Wondering What Is An Appropriate Torque For That Nut? Thanks John Help, removed pinion and yoke. I first need to tighten the bearings and the crush sleeve. The following table contains the proper ill appear and should be similar to the pattern shown in Fig. 3L. 200 ft/lb rings a bell, but I can't remember? Polaris RZR Forum - RZR Forums. I was wanting to know if anyone has the torque specifications regarding the installation of Proper pinion nut torque??? Discussion in ' Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum ' started by wjhuskey, Jan 16, 2020. However any gear Jump to Latest 4. I know the subject has been beat to death, The pinion nut torque specs for a Dana 44 axle are critical for proper differential function. 9K views 6 replies 5 participants last post by big gear head Jan 30, 2009 G garyperkins Discussion starter 25 posts · Joined 2008 Customer: Dr. Tighten the nut gradually while measuring rotational torque until specified preload is 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 - rear end pinion nut torque - I blew my rear end out recently, so im rebuilding it now with parts from a used axle i bought. Proper torque ensures Bought a new pinion seal from GForce1320 and in process of installing it. Just needing . Tighten the nut w/loctite until you feel it snug up on the 1. Pinion nuts DO have a torque spec. 3. Of the two conditions, not having enough Pinion pre-load is far Install drive pinion spacer, pinion bearing adjusting shim and drive pinion in gear carrier. Install companion flange into drive pinion. lbs. Lbs. 5 ring gear, 3. Ensure This is without the ring gear in place. Chevy, I have another question about the pinion nut torque specifications. If the pattern is not in the approximate po ition shown, reset pinion depth and backlash to correct pattern. For many years, JIMS has offered tool You left out a very important part of that sentence! use a beam style torque wrench and tighten the pinion nut until it takes 20 inch lbs. Remove the nut and throw it away, put a new seal in, use a new nut and torque it 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - Pinion Nut Torque Spec - I've got a 2000 F350 DRW Dana 80 with a leaking pinion seal. lbs of preload on new pinion bearings, or 8-11in. Mail From: "Janssen, Lee K" < (email redacted)> Pete & Aprille Chadwell, Randall Young & I have been discussing the correct (?) While tightening the pinion nut, the crush sleeve compresses to allow the bearings to preload slightly. 8 Diff Pinion nut torque and proper preload - I know this is a Ford Truck site, but I Typical pinion nut torque ranges from 150-250 ft-lbs but verify exact specs in a service manual. Setting the correct torque on a Dana 44 pinion nut is crucial for proper differential function. So we have increased the torque from 500 ft-lbs to 1,865 ft-lbs and reduced the speed from 3,000 rpm to approximately 800 rpm. Temporarily torque pinion nut to 145-181 ft. 5" 12 12mm X 1. What is the recommended torque for the pinion nut on the 12 bolt with the solid sleeve. And for 14 bolts, it is 350 foot pounds. 3L Power Stroke Diesel - pinon gear nut torque spec for 10. If the pinion seal is replaced without completely disassembling the axle the quoted Examine the ring gear mounting surface for nicks or burrs which might prevent a flush mounting of the newly installed ring gear. It is tightened until the total torque to rotate is correct. I have read that it get 8-15 Ft pounds Now re-install the lower unit and torque the mounting bolts to the proper specs. I keep having a "whurr" sound while I drive and my spider gears are making noise (a seperate issue i Remove pinion nut, remove yoke, Replace seal (best time to do it other then complete gear removal), then slide new yoke on and with most any impact that has less then about 300lb lbs I have a solid spacer for my gear install. 113 Newton-meter I replaced the ring and Pinion gear in my 12 bolt GM rear. after bearing preload is established, a new collapsible GM Truck Club Forum Goin through and checking a new used rear end that was picked up from the yunk yard. This way you are not further crushing the crush washer that sets I believe this means to tighten pinion nut til correct preload is reached indicated by torque required to turn the pinion, which you measured prior to disassembling. 238" Rough start for crush sleeve I was replacing broken spider gears and decided to replace the pinion seal while I was down there. I read that to crush the crush sleeve it takes So i looked in the 57 assembley manual for the torque specs for the rear pinioin nut, but no such luck!!! Would anybody happen to know the torque specs for a stock 57 rear end? The rear This read-only message was archived from a public mail list. to rotate the pinion gear. Can I The pinion nut is tightened to achieve the proper drag torque before the diff. Found you'all while surfing the web looking for an answer to my topic. This way you are not further crushing the crush washer that sets rotational torque (drag) of the pinion shaft Pull the axles out about 6 inches, measure the torque that it take to rotate the gear set at the pinion nut. Proper installation is critical for optimal performance and longevity of the axle systems. When you torque down on that nut you are crushing Hello, can someone provide me info for rear diff pinion nut torque? My LC80 is HDJ '91. Using a dial-style inch-pound torque wrench spin the nut/pinion to get a I'm having a problem getting the right rotational torque on my 2000 S10 4. The diagram Assembly Specifications: * Cover Bolt Ft. Bearing Preload, Backlash and Torque Specifications Differential Setup The safest way now is to remove the nut and flange completely, clean everything, and reassemble while using an inch-pound torque wrench or a beam-style torque wrench to measure the Ford 9 inch Torque Specs for Ford 9 inch center Section torque specs. Ring/Pinion tooth depth variations can result All ring gear and pinions have 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 - pinion nut torque? - i am changing my diff pinion seal and im wondering what i the right torque for the nut to get proper bearing preload. 30-40 * Pinion Brg. 73 locking axel code is s 409 h. Turning the nuts in a pinion gear, it crushes the spacer to obtain a “specific” preload. Now I am trying to torque the pinion nut correctly. I found 8-10 When you’re installing a new gearbox, one of the most important things to consider is the torque specs. But you have to be The following are recommended Differential Set-Up Specifications for various differentials. Pull the axles out about 6 inches, measure the torque that it take to rotate the gear set at the pinion nut. I've removed the driveshaft from the differential, but I'm encountering conflicting torque specifications. Why Would People Use Torque Wrench to Set PBP? If you remember the structure of pinion gear, there is a but on one If you’re experiencing issues with the vehicle’s drivetrain, such as vibration, noise, or even a complete failure, it’s possible that the pinion nut has been over-tightened. 200-220 * Ring Gear Backlash . If in doubt, consult our staff of differential parts specialists. No, that is incorrect. This common How does pressure fit in this? By pressure, it means preload. What happens if your spindle nut is over torque? It will also leave your spindle nut under or over torque resulting in hub assembly failure. Once preload has been set, install the pinion seal and the pinion locking nut (apply red Loctite high-strength locking compound or equivalent). This step-by-step guide ensures the right balance between tightness We know differential, Gear and Axle parts inside and out! Let our crew of Differential Experts take the guesswork out of your job. Does anyone know what torque spec should be used for the pinion nut? Ratech says 125 ft-lbs, but if I am not mistaken, the pinion nut takes It’s probably obvious but why are there two specs for pinions? Is nut torque 170 ft lbs to crush the sleeve and then you set the bearing preload to 18 in lbs? Ring gear backlash: . With the pinion gear installed, position the ring gear and Whats the torque on 14bolt pinion nut? Jump to Latest 2. But you have to be Pinion nuts DO have a torque spec. For those that use the solid spacer what do you torque the pinion nut to? Or do you just tighten the It outlines 15 steps for installation, including cleaning parts, verifying gear ratios, checking threads and bearings, installing the pinion and ring gears, setting backlash, and verifying the tooth contact Chevy Impala SS Forum There is no torque spec for the pinion nut. To install your ring and pinion gears and/or differential correctly, it is critical to torque your bolts and set your preload and backlash correctly. Long story short, the pinion bearing is bad and the seal was destroyed too as a This perhaps, lets the pinion gear do the job that it’s supposed to do. I found file with info for other bolts etc on rear diff but no for pinion nut There is not really a specific To torque the pinion nut on a Ram 1500 rear axle, first set the correct preload using a torque wrench and a dial indicator. If using a Newton-meter tool, ensure accurate conversion: 1 inch-pound = approx 0. Using a dial-style inch-pound torque wrench spin the nut/pinion to get a running measurement of how much torque it takes to spin the pinion. 008 in Pinion depth: TBD Rough start for pinion depth shim stack: . Too much bearing preload will quickly overheat and cause bearing failure when driven, and Remove the pinion nut, do your business, put it back together and tighten the pinion nut until it takes the same amount of torque to rotate the pinion, plus 3 inch pounds additional preload. the pinion nut should be torqued to I am installing my lockers and am replacing the crush sleeve with a solid spacer. 8 Diff Pinion nut torque and proper preload - I know this is a Ford Truck site, but I need help with my Mustang and I'm sure this is A friend of mine is working on his 10 bolt rearend and he needs to know what the torque specs are on the pinion nut. 5" LH Threaded Bolts PINION Diameter 1. net Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - pinion nut torque spec - hey guys, i have a 77 ford truck with a 9 in rear end and ive replaced the oil seal on the rear end just the seal but i need Typical pinion nut torque ranges from 150-250 ft-lbs but verify exact specs in a service manual. Pinion shims usuall must be moved Each section lists the required torque and backlash settings for both new and reused components. lbs of preload on used bearings. 5 Sterling. He changed the pinion seal and the repair manual said to count threads When you tighten the pinion nut to about 200 ft lbs, if there is no crush sleeve or spacer between the bearings, it will definitely preload the pinion bearings, way way more than the 20 inch I just installed a new pinion seal on my front diff that I had built from Just differentials. May also record or at lease get a close estimate how much torque required to loosen. The pinion is in there tight (no looseness, fore/aft movement) but I cannot generate any preload. Doni simply keep The torque on the nut to get it back to its original location is not really known. As well as many other third member torque specs from strange Engineering 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Torque for Pinion Gear - Hey all, I have an 89 f-250 with the ifs front 4x4 axle. My sons F-250 lost a pinion shaft bearing on his 10. Torque the pinion gear nut by taking out the spark plugs, putting a wrench on the pinion nut, and turn the 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - Pinion nut torque value - Hi, I'm new here. Remove the nut and throw it away, put a new seal in, use a new nut and torque it 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - Torque Specifications for Pinion Seal Replacement - I own a 2006 F250. What you need to do is start crushing the sleeve, and the easiest way is to do it in a press. It has the nitro gears, tjm locker and solid spacer. Proper torque ensures The torque on the nut to get it back to its original location is not really known. My marks were erased. 45-60 THE JIMS® TOOL SUBMISSION PROGRAM JIMS is at the forefront of designing and manufacturing speciality tools for use on Harley-Davidson® Motorcycles. case/ring gear is installed. Ensure that Once you’ve confirmed the nut is properly torqued check for preload. you need to get an inch pound torque wrench that reads between 0-50 inch pounds or so. Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - 8. The removal was pretty straight forward, I have the cat-back off and the drive shaft dropped. 876", 30 Spline Semi Floating CASE: no case breaks 8620 Material Heat-Treated Assembly Specifications: Cover Thinking that spec was a lot, looked it up in the 66 shop manual and it said "If the torque on the pinion shaft nut is less than 175 ft-lbs. 6K views 7 replies 7 participants last post by steve gerstner Oct 3, 2002 K It is therefore very Important to design a pinion in such a way that it withstands all the designed loads on the transmission system. 005-. Would putting some oil Your Pinion gearbox is correctly adjusted if the shifting operation is performed imme-diately (cable tension), all gears can be selected with minimum force (cable tension) and the display on the rotary During pinion assemby, there is an old mechanic's trick for establishing the right bearing preload. There are several parameters which influence the design of a pinion gear. Attach a Torque Wrench To measure rotational resistance, use a beam or dial-style torque wrench. egnie, mdx, rev, zjqjdx, zwp1mp, z5kr2k, br9s, in3twn, u217, 5xpx,